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  And the jackals move in

  by stillin in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  a woman whom i knew as a teenager stayed over at another witness family's home.

  the brother who was the father was caught peeking at her while she was taking a shower.

  she told the elders, a jc was held, the brother was repentant and had loss of privileges for a year.

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  The Rebel

  Sorry I am confused here. Let's bullit-point your O.P.

  A) 35 years ago a brother was caught peeking at a sister whilst she took a shower.

  B) she told the elders he was rependent and lost privaliges.

  C) Now 35 years later she intends suing the watchtower.

  With the greatest respect she needs a bloody good laywer.

  On a more serious note has anybody heard of Cliff Richard? ( His band members were called " The Shadows" and converted to Jehovers witnesses) Anyway I think Cliff Richard is a resent and better example of why we need a statute of limitations on such charges, but the sister you knew is a good example.
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  Help Please - Finding It Hard Adjusting To The Real World

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  im asking for you guys help in a phase im going through right now.

  im sure it’ll pass but id appreciate your advice..

  born in, my family consists of mum, dad, two brothers and two sisters.

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  The Rebel

  pale.emperor, I really appreciate your posts, and now I appreciate from this post the wonderful personality, behind the posts. I can't give any advice, except to say it's your decision and you do what is the right thing for you.

  It's never easy leaving a cult,the anxiety you are going through is part of the process.
  
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  Ideas to discreetly identify the awoken among us

  by Truthexplorer in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ok. i know this has been brought up in the past, but i have often wondered who in our halls are awake (for those of us who attend).

  there are some i would consider a 'maybe', but no way of ever really knowing.. so here is my idea.

  i hope it doesn't sound too masonic,.

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  The Rebel

  Truthexplorer: (Q) Ideas to " DISCREETLY" identify the awoken among us?"

  The Rebel (A) How about we " DISCREETLY" ask them?"

  Actually it's not usually that difficult to tell, often by body language, but also by meeting attendance, fewer answers at meetings, ect. Also most of us aren't such good actors....but the biggest clue is " privaliges" as you will be surprised how the elders usually spot " awakening" brothers first, even amoung fellow elders.
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  Thank you WT!

  by Mandrake in

  1. social
  2. humour

  well here's the thing... my brother-in-law needed some marketing boost for his dental clinic (i'm a dental student by now, her sister, my girlfriend, also), so i designed some brochures and today they were ready at the print studio.. i told him... "look, i spent 20 years in that cult, they have a very boring message, and they still managed to achieve 7m or more adepts, so i will distribute this brochures in the area this way: just like in field service, drawing some territories and "preaching" block by block... just to know were and when our advertising is being delivered".

  so i started preaching the "dental good news", it was so easy compared to field service!!!

  everyone were very receptive in the clinic's neighbourhood (it's in a downtown area in santiago, cl).

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  The Rebel

  Target, Identify and Educate.

  I think the beauty of your marketing is that:-

  A) As a dental student your age gives credibility to door knocking. ( it might appear desperate if a middle aged dentist adopted the same approach?)

  B) Cost effective.

  C) Targets those close to the practice, that are more likely to need or make use of your dental praxtice.

  D) Educates those people about the practice in a very open and friendly way.

  E) Allows you to get informed on the competition. ( This can often give you the correct time frame to do a " return call")

  Hope the exercise generates a great client base.

  
  
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  How are you with your temper?

  by The Rebel in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  let's be honest everyone has their limits, their breaking point.

  personally i try to remain placid when provoked, but on occasion i can loose it.

  the last time i lost it was when chelsea came to watford and some chelsea supporters had some how got tickets and were sitting in the home end.

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  The Rebel

  Interesting read " James Brown" thanks.

  " Anger is an acid that can do more harm to the vessel in which it is stored than to anything on which it is poured"-Mark Twain

  We get angry when we are frustrated, which often cause us to release adrenalin, causing muscles to tence and the heart rate to increase.

  " Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned" - The Buddah,

  I quote Buddah because it was interesting how many posters wrote that they practice meditation to control their anger ( well one poster did anyway, and I make two) Personally I think anger is a form of reincarnation, I mean we wake up in a good mood and then something happens and we get angry, and we temporary become a different self to the self that started the day in a good mood. I have learnt that many of the times I got angry and lost my temple, it was quite unnecessary. The problem was me not the situation.
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  How many JWs actually died in Nazi camps

  by dogon in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  the jws have tried to pad the number of jws in camps.

  how many actually went and how many died?

  can you site the source also?

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  The Rebel

  Whilst I agree with you Simon, I also believe the only reason Jehovers Witnesses ended up in concentration camps was because Judge Rutherford wrote ridiculous letters to Hitler. Therefore the persecution of Jehovers Witness was preventable.

  As for the holocaust and concentration camps, it is a reminder of the human ability for evil, and it should be studied by our children and our children's children, and never forgotten. But surely the most important lesson, is that we must teach our children the lesson is to care about each innocent individual and their fate without prejudice.
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  How many JWs actually died in Nazi camps

  by dogon in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  the jws have tried to pad the number of jws in camps.

  how many actually went and how many died?

  can you site the source also?

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  The Rebel

  Dogon, The more relevant question is why were Jehovers Witnesses in the concentration camps in the first place?

  The answer has to do with property ownership. If you do your research, you will find how Judge Rutherford fully supported Hitler and " YES" wrote Hitler letters praising his policies against the Jews. It was only after Hitler confiscated " Kingdom Halls" in Nazi Germany, that Rutherford decided to write very " Rude" letters to Hitler.( i.e the letter recorded in the year book) and this is why " German" Jehovers Witnesses ended up in concentration camps.

  I will find the relevant documentation to support my statements, unless more administrative members have the information to hand?
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  Every time I see one of them loving their kids, I think....

  by jambon1 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  every time i see photos of new jw parents cuddling up to their new babies.. every time i see people giving the parents new baby cards & gifts.. every time i see them having fun with their children.. i think to myself; 'you would shun your kids' .

  if they don't end up being jw's.

  if they simply publicly declare that they don't believe.

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  The Rebel

  As a collective you are right " jambon1" but in my experience and put to the test, this is not always the case, ( it was I am pleased to say a wake up call for many I knew) and personally I don't blame a cult for " shunning" a sibling, I blame the parent. We can't blame a cult for shunning our child, and I am no advocate of the cult.
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  Who Is In Charge of the Governing Body?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  who is the top dog now?.

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  The Rebel

  Minimus (Q) who is in charge of the G.B now?

  The Rebel ( A) Same answer as it's always been, it's just following the chain has become more complicated. What chain is that? Well it's to much work for me, but I would suggest for an honest answer you follow the "Money chain" and I promise you it's not people feasting on crap food at any bethel.
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  How are you with your temper?

  by The Rebel in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  let's be honest everyone has their limits, their breaking point.

  personally i try to remain placid when provoked, but on occasion i can loose it.

  the last time i lost it was when chelsea came to watford and some chelsea supporters had some how got tickets and were sitting in the home end.

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  The Rebel

  That was agonisingly funny Tantalon, you strike a chord with every angry person anywhere...and being intimidated by your anger I give you a " Like" :-)

  As a thought for all us placid people, we should spend a day being angry, see what a difference it will make to our life's, our wife's will obey us, our children will clean their teeth and do homework, and our boss will make us unemployed...